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Old Jun 26, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35   #1
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Default New Minion Master Elite Idea


Summoner of Grenth(Elite Death Enchantment)

For 8...34 seconds, whenever you animate a minion, you and all minions under your control gain 7...47 health and you gain and 1...6 Energy.

15 energy 2 activation 45 recharge

Notes: Like boon of creation for minion masters
Benefits: Heals minions and self and aids in energy upkeep
Cons: Takes up elite slot and long recharge if interupted (Energy gain only applies once when animate bone minions is activated)

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Last edited by dsnesnintendo; Jun 26, 2007 at 08:44 AM // 08:44.. Reason: forgot to change seconds i was going to lower before post
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27   #2
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Pros
1) It's a decent spell. Doesn't seem too powerful for an elite either.
2) Makes a handy substitution for Soul Reaping.

Cons
1) Removes the point of Soul Reaping. With this spell, you can at least remove several points from soul reaping as the energy gained from ressurrecting minions offsets the lack of points gained when a monster dies.

2) With all points in death magic, the spell is already recharged by the time the effects wear off. Perhaps the recharge ought to be longer.

3) Seems too similar to boon of creation. Rather than you gaining health as well, how about you lose 5% life. You'd still gain the energy you could use to heal yourself.
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 10:49 AM // 10:49   #3
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hum tie to soul reaping? juts like boon of creation is in the spawning power line.
if its intended to trigger only once for bone minions, then rephrase for "whenever you successfully activate an animate spell"
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3) Seems too similar to boon of creation. Rather than you gaining health as well, how about you lose 5% life. You'd still gain the energy you could use to heal yourself.
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11   #4
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meh, I still think Rit MM's still have the PvE MM slot - they have E ^^

Bascially this is an elite version of boon....? with perhaps a little [skill]Spirit's Gift[/skill] thrown in?
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Old Jun 26, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #5
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i think this spell is great as it is, or could even be buffed, for gods sake its elite. if it was sac 5% health then i would never take this skill ever.
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Old Jun 27, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #6
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thank you for the suggestions
I did see the point of the skill could be reapplied so i changed the length as for the 5% sac that seems silly and i myself wouldn't use it then
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Old Jun 27, 2007, 03:55 AM // 03:55   #7
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wait why did you change length..... look [skill]boon of creation[/skill], can be reapplied, heals, gives energy and is NON-ELITE, the skill he is suggesting is elite and should be at least just as good....... i mean come on......
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Old Jun 27, 2007, 09:51 AM // 09:51   #8
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You wouldn't bring that skill with sacrifice?! Are you nuts? It's like casting blood of the master for free everytime you make a minion... AND gaining energy AND sacrificing less health than blood of the master. Lets not forget the fact that if you create double minions, you and your minions get TWICE the health and you get TWICE the energy.

Let me guess.. I bet you think it's even underpowered as it is for an elite. How about we make it so in addition to that, we make it so that it kills an enemy when you ressurect a minion. That seems fair, right?
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Old Jun 27, 2007, 10:03 AM // 10:03   #9
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um he said remove healing and add sac -.-, also minions only goes off once please read all posts thoroughly. i think as it stands in the beginning it was good.
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Old Jun 27, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15   #10
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um he said remove healing and add sac -.-
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3) Seems too similar to boon of creation. Rather than you gaining health as well, how about you lose 5% life. You'd still gain the energy you could use to heal yourself.
Actually, I was the one that said to remove healing and add sac.
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also minions only goes off once please read all posts thoroughly
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For 8...34 seconds, whenever you animate a minion, you and all minions under your control gain 7...47 health and you gain and 1...6 Energy.
Actually, he said whenever you animate a minion, so if you summoned two minions with the same spell, you get twice the effect. Perhaps he didn't intend it that way, but that's what he wrote.

My suggestion for you is to take your own advice and read the posts thoroughly.

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Old Jun 27, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #11
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first im typing this on my wii because my computer self destructed so excuse my misspellings
firstoff hawkeye actually read the post under cons section
second blood of of the master heals fot 122 this heals for 50 so its less then half
finally it is ELITE so saccing seems stupid because i myself wouldnt use it and im uping length soon as i dont think it lasts long enough
second finally it isnt a real skill just an idea for one iv thought of for a really long time
again thx for input
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